Thursday, February 2. 2012Facebook - numbers and valuationGoogle vs Facebook in 2004 $, assuming c 20% inflation Now that Facebook has filed it's S-1 it is possible to look at the actual reported numbers, which are in short for 2011: Revenues £3.7bn The chart above compares the Facebook valuation against fundamentals with Google. Note that I use Google's IPO filings, its actual performance in 2003 turned out to be far better (c $1,5bn revenues and $350m profits), whereas Facebook's probably won't be. What it shows is that Facebook is in essence trying to get about 15% more value per $ of revenue (or 75% more if you plug in Google's actual 2003 performance), and underlying that is an assumption of a c 2 x valuation per user and per user dollar earned vs Google. Now Google overperformed, so it's not unbelievable at all that Facebook will hit its valuation too, but as it has set the bar higher Facebook will still be under more pressure to deliver the results than Google was. So, what do we have to believe to believe that Facebook is worth the $100bn? Firstly, you need to believe that the numbers are even achievable. A valuation of $100bn on a user base of 845m implies a valuation of c $118 per user, within a reasonable timeframe. In financial modelling that is usually taken as 5 years. There are about 2 billion people online today, most estimates think it will be about 3-3.5 billion in 5 years or so time, a reasonable estimate of the the maximum Facebook user base is probably in the region of about 1.5 bn, ie roughly double today, so let us assume the endgame is the valuation of $100bn over 1.5m people, ie about $70 per person in 5 years time. A simple approximation therefore is that Facebook needs to go from c $70/5 = c $15 ARPU, from the c $4 today. Incidentally, Google's ARPU is about $18 today. So it comes to this - do you believe that Facebook can eventually make the same sort of ARPU as Google does, and keep its current market share? Bear in mind that the next 800m people Facebook adds will have much less disposable income than the current 800,000, so the ARPU growth in ratio terms is far higher than Google had to do, as it grew from a smaller base into a wealthier market. Secondly, long term, ultimately valuation is based on profit. Facebook has a higher profitability than Google at IPO, at c 25%. Google's IPO was c half of that and it only hit the c 25% sort of ratios c 2 years after IPO, and has more or less stayed at around that level. Google now has a c $150bn valuation on c $40bn revenues and c $10bn profit, so for Facebook to justify $100bn longer term you have to believe it can hit c $6-7bn profits, ie revenues of c $24-28bn in about 5 years, and maintaining profis at about 25%. So the question is do you believe there is a sustainable 6-7x growth in profits? Thirdly, to believe the above two things, we pretty much have to believe that Facebook has as easy or easier a time in the next 5 years than Google has had, ie you have to believe competition and regulatory interference (little surprise the Facebook is beefing up its lobbying arm) will be at worst the same, preferably better and that it makes better use of its cash in funding its growth. Now this is not a "proper" analysis, but it does bracket the relative IPOs and trajectories for comparison. What it boils down to is that Facebook has set a significantly higher value per dollar earned and user gained than Google, and you have to believe Facebook gets a fairer wind for the next 5 years than Google had over its first 5 years post IPO to justify the $100bn valuation. In other words, you heve to believe it is a (2x) better company than Google. Do you believe that? Wednesday, February 1. 2012Facebook and the starting gun for the BubbletimeThe Broadstuff Bubble-O-Meter is about to hit the jackpot We were asked last week by the Grauniad to comment on the Facebook IPO valuation (see here), and to contrast it with Google, as excitement increases (or maybe not). The valuation I will deal with later, but the compare and contrast with Google is very interesting. In a nutshell, at IPO Google: - Had revenues of c $1.5bn and had been profitable for several years, making c£350m in the pre-IPO year Facebook is something like this (considerable connjecture, as its reported finances vary widely): - Revenues of between $2 and $4bn in 2011, profits between breakeven and $1bn (depending on who you read) So, Facebook and Google have quite a few similarities at IPO, but there are 4 glaring differences: - Whichever way you look at it, Facebook's valuation as a ratio of its business fundamentals is 2-3 times higher than Google's My take is that Google IPO'd earlier in its growth trajectory, and was able to more easily "grow into" its IPO value both because it had a lower valuation as a proportion of its fundamentals, and it had more growth in it as less users were connected at the time and revenue is not bounded by registered users but by number of searches per user. Now, as to the Facebook valuation - is $100bn overvalued? The answer is "what do you need to believe to get to $100bn". If you believe it is worth $100bn, then you need to believe that: - That the ARPU of c $2.5 - $5 per user can be made to fund a per-user valuation of $125. So, what do you believe..... This is a classic dotcom IPO play (small number of shares on sale, lots of hype, very high valuations). Very few make the grade. Google managed it, and more, and today has a comfortable $150bn market cap - but Facebook has set itself a far higher set of bars. In other words a lot more things have to go right, for a long time, for Facebook. The really inteesting thing will be when Facebook's numbers are published, and every analyst worth their salt will try and work out how the above will be achieved. But one thing is for certain - this is the starting gun for the Social Media bubble, as we predicted a year ago (see the Broadstuff Bubble-O-Meter above, we started it about this time last year), and we shall now see the extraordinary madness of crowds in spades - as Chris Dixon predicts: - a bunch of second-tier social media companies go public to satisfy investor demand for "social media allocations" (facebook's reportedly small float of 5b will make this more likely) The next post will be on the Patterson cycle and the role of Bubbles...stay tuned. Tuesday, September 27. 2011The death and resurrected life of Delicious
When Web 2.0 broke out in the mid noughties, Deli.cio.us was one of the main services pointed to as part of the New Wave. Now it has been resurrected. What is more interesting is who the the owners are - Liz Gannes on alt.hings.D
New owners Chad Hurley and Steve Chen (a.k.a. the creators of YouTube) have ported Delicious over from previous owner Yahoo, and are ready to show their first revision to the public. As Liz says, this was not eventually a major part of the Web 2.0 movement (though it has its own dedicated following) and was bought by Yahoo, who essentially strangled it before selling it on for a song. Far be it for us to suggest that this goose is being fattened up for the Bubbletime....and postulate how many other defunct mid-noughties brands will become Laz.ar.Us brands.... Wednesday, September 21. 2011Bubbleworld Deflation?
News today that Ning managed a $200m all-stock sale to Glam Media - AllThingsD:
Glam Media, a social content platform for sites primarily targeting women, said it’s buying Ning, the custom social-platform start-up co-founded by Marc Andreessen. The purchase price wasn’t disclosed, but sources close to the deal said the sale price was $200 million, mostly in stock. Glam has been eyeing an initial public offering, so shares being part of the deal is not a surprise. I had reported in August that Ning was on the block and had been talking to a number of companies, including Google and Groupon. The sale price is well below previous loftier valuations for Ning, which topped $750 million several years ago. Its venture funders have put close to $120 million into the company since it was founded in 2004. Timing is everything, Ning was an early-generation SocNet that didn't sell at the time its contemporaries like Bebo, MySpace et al did, and has been superseded by next-generation ones. This is a face saving sale for the Ning founders and a part of Glam's "pump up the volume" of traffic pre IPO. But this capitulation by the Ning founders also points to early signs of a deflation in The Bubble - Groupon has pulled its IPO (to be seen when it has another shot), and Facebook has now been pushed back for another year. Be interesting to see what Zynga does, given it is another of the recent Tech darlings that has recently filed a $1bn IPO. If the last Tech Bubble is anything to go by, there will be a series of deflations like this followed by increased inflations in this one. Too early to all this deflation, but definitely a reduction in inflation. Update - contra indications to a still infalting bubbleworld - an Incubator's Incubator! (hat tip @bobbiejohnson) Tuesday, September 6. 2011TechCrunch - Lessons in Economics and Ethics Part II
In a post earlier today we noted that the problem with a blog like TechCrunch is that its Economics will conflict with Ethics, most specifically the Ethics* of being part of of a large corporate - "Fast and Loose" is great for a small independent organ, not so good for a slow and tightly run large media empire. When you are a small organ you can both write about, and invest in, the same companies. You can't as part of a large corporate media empire. Michael Arrington, TechCrunch founder, has pretty much laid this dilemma out in a post on TechCrunch in what looks a lot like an ultimatum to his acquirers:
We’ve proposed two options to AOL. AOL are unlikely to be able to do (1), for 2 main reasons: - They are a large corporate and a great, rich lawsuit/hate campaign target for any pressure group they upset, so allowing their Tech organ to effectively look like a DotCom style market analysis business for it's Editor's investment fund is a PR disaster and maybe a legal one. Remember Henry and Mary and all that from last time round - the resulting scandal made the SEC force banks to drop doing both analysis and sell side activities in the same unit and pay large fines ( Purely out of goodwill, of course For these reasons the financial and legal risks are probably too large to give TechCrunch pure editorial independence, especially now. Option (2) is quite hard as well - If they sold it back so soon after buying it, at a loss, they would looks like fools and no doubt prompt all sorts of questions about their management competence. Senior heads would roll. If they tried to sell it for more, who would buy? This is a real sign of the Bubbletimes, this whole brouhaha wouldn't be happening without the silly money now being thrown at Silicon valley technology startups, and all who sail with them. In fact one wonders why TechCrunch sold to AOL when it did (Sep 2010) as the Bubble was already evident (we opened our Bubblewatch section in April 2010) but to be fair it was only visible to geeky trend watchers like us - the really obvious froth only started about February 2011 (this year) after AOL bought HuffPo. One imagines a certain amount of D'Oh at TCHQ soon after that In our early post we pointed to the interesting insight into the economics of a Tech blog that the TechCrunch datasieve is opening up, but putting the backroom negotiations on the front page is a new one on us old M&A hands too. And given that that post has set the scene for this one, we do now turn a slightly quizzical eye at the alleged independence Messrs Siegler and Carr claimed they have In that post, I also commented on Stowe Boyd's point that this was looking like a tragedy like Titus Andronicus and wondered it was not a tragedy or even comedy. I am wondering now if this is more the Theatre of the Absurd....and here we all are in the front row. *Please note - When we talk about Ethics here, we are not talking about Morality - we are talking about What Gets You Flamed/Sued/Fined/Incarcerated. TechCrunch - Lessons in Economics and Ethics
There have been some interesting behind-the-screens revelations of TechCrunch's modus operandi as it implodes (or whatever its doing) - MG Siegler:
First and foremost, the concept of an “editor” at TechCrunch is essentially just a title and nothing more. Generally speaking, neither Mike nor Erick (TC’s two “co-editors”) are overlords that dictate what everyone else covers. With a few exceptions (mainly for newer writers), no one person even reads posts by any other author before they are posted. Then Paul Carr (apparently writing at the same time as MG above, apparently unknown to each other) For one thing, TechCrunch writers edit and publish their own stories. We don’t have a morning editorial meeting in which Mike — or anyone else — signs off on stories; we don’t have an editorial work flow at all in fact. Generally speaking, Mike doesn’t see stories until they appear on the site and if he has any input on what’s written it’s given after the fact. I have never, ever known Mike to tell even the most junior writer what line to take on a story. A personal example: I once wrote an extremely negative post about a company in which one of Mike’s friends is a significant investor. I heard nothing from Mike when I posted the piece. It was only months — literally months — later that he mentioned to me in passing how many calls he’d received complaining about the piece and demanding that he “do something” about me. Mike had laughed them all off: he doesn’t interfere with his writers. Low Overheads, Low Cost Management and Low Cost writers (I don't know how much the writers are paid, I'm assuming they are mainly on freelance rates) - a lesson in Economics for the serious News Organs if ever there was one. But it doesn't come without risks, and I think they are around what Stowe Boyd calls Linelessness, in that the New Media does not accept the invisible lines of the Old.... Even at a old school bastion of journalism like the NY Times, editors and authors have to pick what stories to follow, out of the infinity of potential stories in the universe. There is no infallible, objective mechanism to pick stories, one that is fair and unbiased in some truly general and provable sense. The reality is that all organizations (and individuals) have to settle for extreme approximations of what a hypothetically unbiased approach to news coverage would produce, if such a thing actually existed. They cry foul for good reason, as in the past you can quote examples ad infinitum where if the analyst and the investor are on the same side of the Chinese Walls*, you get very biassed advice ( Dot Com coverage anyone?) and over time, this destroys reputations and businesses. That is one sort of risk for an independent fast and loose blog to take (TechCrunch), but not for a slow and tightly managed wannabee major media (aka sue-able) empire (AOL/Hugffington/etc). As Stowe points out though, this brouhaha is all the product of the Machiavellian cocktail of greed, power...and fear of missing out on the Bubbletime. it wasn’t journalists that created Arrington, but the tech scene: a tight-knit, self-absorbed community of investors, entrepreneurs, and wannabes, all desperate for ink, share-of-mind, and a chance for the brass ring. So many hanging on every word printed in TechCrunch, trying to get written up, hoping for a leg up in the steeplechase that is the central animating goal of the tech scene. So - some predictions from the lessons of TechCrunch - the New Economics clearly are the future, but the Lineless New Ethics may not prove to be quite so stable. Stowe again:
All the world is a stage, but whether this is just another drama, an unfolding tragedy or a bit of comedy remains to be seen..... *Update - please note When we talk about Ethics here, we are not talking about Morality - we are talking about What Gets You Flamed/Sued/Fined/Incarcerated. Monday, September 5. 2011TechCrunch Crunchtime
Something is in the air at TechCrunch:
The only thing that surprises me is that anyone thinks you can (i) sell to AOL and then (ii) "pivot" from writing about, to investing in, startups without major changes. It's a Bubbleworld brouhaha, as it means the money flooding into funding flimsy startups is higher than the money going into talking about them. The old Gartner Hype Curve says it all - when a market moves from talking about some new new thing at conferences to actually investing serious money in it, its getting to the top - the "Peak of Unrealistic Expectations" - of the hype curve. Thursday, September 1. 2011Mixed signals in the BubbleconomyBroadstuff Bubble-O-Meter Its business as usual on BubbleWatch, as AOL/TechCrunch's Michael Arrington starts a startup fund: Mr. Arrington is starting a venture capital fund to invest in the start-ups that TechCrunch covers. Nothing like a conflict of interest there......but so far, so predictably bubbly (In fact he's a bit late to the startup fund party, see our Bubble-O-Meter above - but the more the merrier in Bubbletimes) And yet, there is also this interesting aberration - Analysts are calling Groupon overvalued, the bounders - PE Hub: In one of the nicer reports to be published about the daily deals company in recent weeks, Benchmark Co. analyst Fred Moran told Reuters that he considers the company’s oft-cited valuation of $25 billion “very high.” Well, that's Henry for you, ever the optimist...but it is interesting that a DotCom II darling is actually being called OverValued. Sarah Lacy thinks its because essentially they Werent Invented In the Valley. I think its because they are overvalued. What will be interesting is to see if this new crop of analysts have a pop at some other overvalued IPO's in waiting......We have a sniff that step 6 is starting, but Step 7 in the Bubble-O-Meter may be delayed a bit! Wednesday, July 20. 2011Broadstuff 10 Point Bubblewatch now at Level 6Broadstuff Bubble O Meter - from Force 2 to Force 6 in 6 months We (triumphantly, yet reluctantly) crank the Broadstuff Bubble-O-Meter to Level 6 (see above) in July, based on the news from Betabeat that yet again. as in 2006/7, Lawyers, Consultants, MBAs and Bankers are leaving for startups.
When the Tech world moves from collaborative to competitive it means (silly) money is entering the game in large wodges, and get rich quick dreams are right behind. As Betabeat notes:
Those who were around last time will remember this mindset only too well, as Betabeat alo notes: Whether it’s due to The Social Network or the new wave of billion-dollar tech I.P.O.’s, lately it seems like everyone has a start-up. Betabeat first noticed it in our own neighborhood, the tech-tending East Village, home of Foursquare. On a recent weekend, we overheard an entrepreneur talking about pitching investors over brunch on St. Marks and glimpsed another demonstrating his website’s Twitter integration to a friend at Ninth Street Espresso. We tried to eavesdrop on a bearded, 40-ish fellow ranting about his start-up to a friend in Tompkins Square Park around 9 p.m. on a Wednesday and caught the words “convertible note.” The trend has invaded our building as well. The Goldman Sachs engineer on the second floor wants to join a start-up. He asked us about tech events.Another strong predictor is the increase in the number of startup recruiting events (production of startups is key to meeting the increasing amount of dumb money entering you see....)
And then there is Twitter - $800m in, of which half is to cash out the existing investors....
Its not Twitter we are looking at for stage 7, though... The Circle of Bubblelife says there is one every minute...... just don't invest the 401(K) this time round! Friday, June 17. 2011Spotify now worth $1bn
From AllThingsD, Spotify:
One assumes there is some link between Pandora's IPO and the sudden funding of Spotify It's still a tough play, as AllThings D note: Unlike Europe, however, the U.S. has several existing subscription services that also stream unlimited tunes for $10 a month, and those have yet to take off, even though the services are now compatible with popular handsets like Google’s Android and Apple’s iPhone. Couldn't come soon enough therefore, as they have had to cut down on the free service in Europe which, however you look at the "why", reduces the ability to grow. No doubt most of the money will be used to Watch this space..........
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