Tuesday, September 22. 2009The emerging risks of privacy abuse in location based servicesComments
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It's been demonstrated time and time again that if people are compensated ($, attention, efficiency, value, pick your metric) for giving up privacy, then they'll give up privacy.
Businesses find that individuals (people in their daily lives) exchange privacy for value cheaper than groups (governments, privacy groups, etc.) think privacy is worth. Which one do you believe to be a stronger indicator of the market value of privacy? If users don't like the changes, then they can vote with their feet, their clicks, their attention. Let's see what happens.
Its been demonstrated time and again that they undervalue what that privacy is worth - its one of the "digital arbitrages" occurring right now.
One school of thought says "let the suckers do it", another says "they know no better, we must legislate". I guess mine is to say "Hey, wake up, this is what is happening - and now you've been informed will your decision change?" The problem with voting with their feet is they have already handed over their data by then.
If there is a systematic undervalue, there must be a way for a business to arb that, right? Who does that? Why don't we see more?
You're right, individuals only realize the undervalue (the uncompensated margin between upside and downside) after they've given away rights and data, and they can't get that back. But this isn't a new dynamic. Individuals have been releasing more data to public for a long time, is this just part of the continuum of a step-change? (I should tell you sometime about my idea to scrape facebook pictures of 12-15 year-olds and hold the pictures for 10-20-30 years, until people can appropriately value the full costs of the fun of youth. Obviously I'm not going to do it, but someone definitely could. Perhaps that's helping inform people about full cost of current decisions?
It's weird how this convo just refocused on pictures of 12-year-olds
At any rate, I find the points about undervaluing privacy intriguing, because right now I think most people overvalue their privacy and undervalue the benefits of broadcasting more info publicly (both on an individual and aggregate level). Or is this a conversation about next-next gen (i.e. "as everything becomes public, privacy is a scarce resource", similar to transition to attention economy, yadda yadda) Ethan PS I HATED that sfweekly article on many, many levels.
"undervalue the benefits of broadcasting more info publicly (both on an individual and aggregate level)"
killer. perhaps: a) Most people overvalue their privacy in theory but not in action. b) But even public and privacy are too generic to really debate in practice; in practice there are many components to our lives, and we use different valuation functions for each component. c) Meaning, we're probably penny-wise and pound-foolish: undervaluing some bits, overvaluing others.
Ethan, Taylor - I think the problem wth privacy loss is its one of these things that builds up over time, ie you can't see the impact in a simple transactional way. Also, its by and large irreversible.
I take your point re the benefits of sharing, but I come back to he fundamental issue that there are (sadly) Bad People out there who will abuse this data. The safeguards are not yet available so there is a major arbitrage possible.
Valid point. Bad people will abuse the data. But good people will also use it.
Fact is we don't really have the metrics to value the upside or downside of sharing (seconding your point about the "simple transaction effects"). "Where's my regression function for valuing the costs and benefits of sharing/selling different bits of information?" But without getting more granular about the bits of private info, the generic debate of public / private is kind of meaningless. i.e. I'm ok sharing the fact that I'm listening to TV on the Radio at this very moment. I'm not ok sharing my exact geographical location other than London (although many, many people are). I'm not ok sharing my social security #, etc. (and nobody is, except for the Lifelock dude). Right?
Love that app, how about calling it YouBoob
I think a lot of the social media based services post Ad-FAIL are exactly attempting to use use this arb. Thats why the T&C are shifting towards more privacy invasion. When the user was "paying" via Ad-watching you needed to be more user-friendly than when you are trying to extract all the value from vendor side service. |
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